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Allan Holdsworth collaborated with violinist Jean-Luc Ponty on three albums: "Enigmatic Ocean," "Individual Choice," and "The Atacama Experience." Holdsworth greatly enjoyed working with Ponty, describing him as a sweet person and an incredible musician. | Allan Holdsworth collaborated with violinist Jean-Luc Ponty on three albums: "Enigmatic Ocean," "Individual Choice," and "The Atacama Experience." Holdsworth greatly enjoyed working with Ponty, describing him as a sweet person and an incredible musician. | ||
=Summary of quotes on Jean Luc Ponty= | =Summary of quotes on Jean Luc Ponty= | ||
In the late 1970s, Allan Holdsworth recorded with Jean-Luc Ponty on the album "Enigmatic Ocean." This collaboration was part of Holdsworth's musical journey during this period. Holdsworth expressed admiration for Jean-Luc Ponty's playing and character, highlighting that he loved working with him. They shared mutual respect, and Holdsworth enjoyed contributing guitar solos and harmonies to Ponty's music. When Allan Holdsworth and Daryl Stuermer (another guitarist) shared the stage in Jean-Luc Ponty's band, they had radically different guitar styles. Holdsworth noted that this contrast worked well, as they both respected each other's approach and learned from one another. It was not a competitive or conflicting situation. | In the late 1970s, Allan Holdsworth recorded with Jean-Luc Ponty on the album "Enigmatic Ocean." This collaboration was part of Holdsworth's musical journey during this period. Holdsworth expressed admiration for Jean-Luc Ponty's playing and character, highlighting that he loved working with him. They shared mutual respect, and Holdsworth enjoyed contributing guitar solos and harmonies to Ponty's music. When Allan Holdsworth and Daryl Stuermer (another guitarist) shared the stage in Jean-Luc Ponty's band, they had radically different guitar styles. Holdsworth noted that this contrast worked well, as they both respected each other's approach and learned from one another. It was not a competitive or conflicting situation. | ||
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Holdsworth mentioned collaborating with Ponty again on Ponty's "Acatama Experience" CD. Despite the geographical distance, they exchanged files for the recording, with Holdsworth playing a guitar solo for one of the tracks. | Holdsworth mentioned collaborating with Ponty again on Ponty's "Acatama Experience" CD. Despite the geographical distance, they exchanged files for the recording, with Holdsworth playing a guitar solo for one of the tracks. | ||
Holdsworth's experiences working with Jean-Luc Ponty were characterized by a positive atmosphere, creative freedom, and the opportunity to contribute to Ponty's music. They enjoyed playing lines in harmony and unison, enhancing each other's sound without restricting each other's musical personality. | Holdsworth's experiences working with Jean-Luc Ponty were characterized by a positive atmosphere, creative freedom, and the opportunity to contribute to Ponty's music. They enjoyed playing lines in harmony and unison, enhancing each other's sound without restricting each other's musical personality. ''[This summary was written by ChatGPT in 2023 based on the quotes below.]'' | ||
=Quotes on Jean Luc Ponty= | =Quotes on Jean Luc Ponty= | ||
==[[Allan Holdsworth (Guitar Player 1980)]]== | ==[[Allan Holdsworth (Guitar Player 1980)]]== | ||
Over the next few years Holdsworth recorded on several albums, including drummer Bill Bruford’s first solo LP Feels Good To Me, and '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''’s Enigmatic Ocean. By this point touted primarily as a soloist, Holdsworth found himself trapped into a one-dimensional mode, feeling he had more to offer than just flashy embellishment to other people’s songs. | Over the next few years Holdsworth recorded on several albums, including drummer Bill Bruford’s first solo LP Feels Good To Me, and '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''’s Enigmatic Ocean. By this point touted primarily as a soloist, Holdsworth found himself trapped into a one-dimensional mode, feeling he had more to offer than just flashy embellishment to other people’s songs. | ||
==[[Allan Holdsworth (International Musician 1981)]]== | ==[[Allan Holdsworth (International Musician 1981)]]== | ||
In 1977 I joined Gong which was a potentially interesting writing situation, but they could never stop arguing long enough to orgnaise (sic) anything. We toured a little and then I left. Later that year I played on an album with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' - ‘Enigmatic Ocean. In 1978 I played on Bill Bruford’s solo albums ‘Feels Good To Me’ and ‘One Of A Kind’. I joined U.K. in ‘78 which consisted of Bill, John Wetton, Eddie Jobson and myself, one album there. In 1979 I went to Paris with the new trio, and here we are two years later about to make another album. Ultimately I’d like the band to do a couple of albums and establish in the USA: I’m sure we’ll have more success over there. | In 1977 I joined Gong which was a potentially interesting writing situation, but they could never stop arguing long enough to orgnaise (sic) anything. We toured a little and then I left. Later that year I played on an album with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' - ‘Enigmatic Ocean. In 1978 I played on Bill Bruford’s solo albums ‘Feels Good To Me’ and ‘One Of A Kind’. I joined U.K. in ‘78 which consisted of Bill, John Wetton, Eddie Jobson and myself, one album there. In 1979 I went to Paris with the new trio, and here we are two years later about to make another album. Ultimately I’d like the band to do a couple of albums and establish in the USA: I’m sure we’ll have more success over there. | ||
==[[No Record Contract, No Big Hoopla, But The Fans Have Kept The Faith For Allan Holdsworth (Guitar World 1982)]]== | ==[[No Record Contract, No Big Hoopla, But The Fans Have Kept The Faith For Allan Holdsworth (Guitar World 1982)]]== | ||
"I loved playing with Tony Williams. I loved playing with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''. All of '''Ponty'''’s albums were done pretty much live - as far as I can remember they all were. Live, with everybody playing together, as opposed to people playing off on their own. The UK album was done one guy at a time. What I mean by live is that we played together in the studio rather than in different months!" | "I loved playing with Tony Williams. I loved playing with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''. All of '''Ponty'''’s albums were done pretty much live - as far as I can remember they all were. Live, with everybody playing together, as opposed to people playing off on their own. The UK album was done one guy at a time. What I mean by live is that we played together in the studio rather than in different months!" | ||
==[[Never again a serial-production-group (Sym Info 1986)]]== | ==[[Never again a serial-production-group (Sym Info 1986)]]== | ||
So that was an accident, and after that Gong; that stopped existing as the band fell apart, so that wasn’t my fault. And than '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''; even before I started playing with him I had agreed with Bill (Bruford) that I would co-operate on his solo-project, so after I had finished with '''Jean-Luc''' I had to go again to work with Bill. | So that was an accident, and after that Gong; that stopped existing as the band fell apart, so that wasn’t my fault. And than '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty'''; even before I started playing with him I had agreed with Bill (Bruford) that I would co-operate on his solo-project, so after I had finished with '''Jean-Luc''' I had to go again to work with Bill. | ||
==[[A Conversation With Allan Holdsworth (Abstract Logix 2005)]]== | ==[[A Conversation With Allan Holdsworth (Abstract Logix 2005)]]== | ||
Bill: Speaking of violin, I saw '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' recently. He was doing a trio gig at Carnegie Hall with Stanley Clarke and Bela Fleck. | Bill: Speaking of violin, I saw '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' recently. He was doing a trio gig at Carnegie Hall with Stanley Clarke and Bela Fleck. | ||
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Allan: Oh yeah, that was a nice contrast. I enjoyed that. | Allan: Oh yeah, that was a nice contrast. I enjoyed that. | ||
==[[Harnessing momentum (Innerviews 2008)]]== | ==[[Harnessing momentum (Innerviews 2008)]]== | ||
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I was doing the same thing with him. I really thought Daryl was great. I had seen him play as part of '''Jean-Luc'''’s band prior to my joining. It was a lot of fun to work with him. The fact that we’re so dissimilar made it work together quite well. | I was doing the same thing with him. I really thought Daryl was great. I had seen him play as part of '''Jean-Luc'''’s band prior to my joining. It was a lot of fun to work with him. The fact that we’re so dissimilar made it work together quite well. | ||
==[[Allan Holdsworth - Jazz/Fusion Guitarist (Musicguy247 2017)]]== | ==[[Allan Holdsworth - Jazz/Fusion Guitarist (Musicguy247 2017)]]== | ||
R.V.B. - In the late 70’s you hooked up with guys like '''Jean Luc''' '''Ponty''' and Tony Williams. Things are starting to happen now. Was that a natural process to lead you to finally going out on your own and leading your own project? | R.V.B. - In the late 70’s you hooked up with guys like '''Jean Luc''' '''Ponty''' and Tony Williams. Things are starting to happen now. Was that a natural process to lead you to finally going out on your own and leading your own project? | ||
A.H. - I loved working with '''Jean Luc''' and I loved working with Tony Williams. I got to a point where I just wanted to play my own music. It was a logical step to form a group of my own with Gary Husband and Paul Carmichael. We did that for a while and then I left the UK. I worked with Bill Bruford, which was great. | A.H. - I loved working with '''Jean Luc''' and I loved working with Tony Williams. I got to a point where I just wanted to play my own music. It was a logical step to form a group of my own with Gary Husband and Paul Carmichael. We did that for a while and then I left the UK. I worked with Bill Bruford, which was great. | ||
==[[The Allan Holdsworth Interview (Musoscribe 2017)]]== | ==[[The Allan Holdsworth Interview (Musoscribe 2017)]]== | ||
Was it your time with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' that sparked your interest in playing the violin? | Was it your time with '''Jean-Luc''' '''Ponty''' that sparked your interest in playing the violin? | ||
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'''Jean-Luc''' was great to work for; he left me alone pretty much as well. He didn’t give me any instructions. I liked the music, and I totally enjoyed playing with him. | '''Jean-Luc''' was great to work for; he left me alone pretty much as well. He didn’t give me any instructions. I liked the music, and I totally enjoyed playing with him. | ||
==[[A Different kind of Guitar Hero (BAM 1983)]]== | ==[[A Different kind of Guitar Hero (BAM 1983)]]== | ||
BAM: How was it playing with Ponty? | BAM: How was it playing with Ponty? | ||
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AH: I tried to make my playing a part of the whole thing. And I would be allowed to do whatever I wanted with my solo section. But I didn't usually affect anything else that much. I was just thought of as somebody to fill up the space. | AH: I tried to make my playing a part of the whole thing. And I would be allowed to do whatever I wanted with my solo section. But I didn't usually affect anything else that much. I was just thought of as somebody to fill up the space. | ||
