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for internal records in Steinberger | |||
guitars | |||
this is feign tyranny with allan | |||
holdsworth in his home studio and | |||
beautiful Tustin California on a | |||
sweltering hot day in the middle of July | |||
we're going to talk with him a little | |||
bit about his new internet album secrets | |||
which will be coming out here shortly | |||
and talked about his playing and some of | |||
his techniques and recording methods and | |||
I guess you mix the album right in here | |||
yeah I him right over there at that | |||
console that no one can see yeah earlier | |||
when we were talking he said that this | |||
time you were able to do some things in | |||
terms of mixing that you hadn't been | |||
able to do on your earlier albums just | |||
exactly what did you do well usually | |||
it's a money problem if you're going to | |||
the studio and you're mixing an album | |||
you know you have a set amount of time | |||
to do it and you usually try and do it | |||
as quickly as you can and quite often | |||
I've made a lot of mistakes so then we | |||
finished up having to remix a song or | |||
then you run out many or every week out | |||
okay so you try often don't get exactly | |||
what you want but nobody ever does but | |||
this time doing it at home or well I | |||
don't have the same equipment is a lot | |||
of the you know like a really awesome | |||
studio the thing is that I can make up | |||
for it by the amount of time that I can | |||
take on the mixing for example if I | |||
started mixing one song instead of just | |||
getting it ready to look so then putting | |||
it down onto the to track I'd spend more | |||
time listening to it I get a rough mix | |||
up or a pretty good mix and make adapter | |||
for it make cassettes play in the car | |||
playing with my friends house play it | |||
with a lot of different systems | |||
therefore you know being able to go back | |||
to the board in and make the necessary | |||
changes | |||
is that they give was a big thing for me | |||
on this working as a result you probably | |||
must feel pretty good about it having | |||
heard it both on the studio monitors and | |||
as you said in a variety of environments | |||
I think it turned out good with regard | |||
to that that you can listen to it all a | |||
lot of different you know in a lot of | |||
different environments in it sounds | |||
pretty good I was quite pleased as | |||
pleased as you can be with anything that | |||
you can feel speaking of that I mean | |||
with each successive album it seems that | |||
critics and fans alike are always racing | |||
to the dictionary for new adjectives try | |||
and find one more superlative that they | |||
can say about your playing how do you | |||
feel about the way you play well I'll | |||
ever I'll ever a hundred percent happy | |||
with anything that I do but I think | |||
that's normal | |||
and I just try and do the best I can at | |||
any point in time you know what the | |||
thing that keeps me going is that if I | |||
look back to an older album that I can | |||
hear some progress which up till now | |||
thankfully I can and that's enough | |||
inspiration for me and keep going if I | |||
listen to an album to always be going | |||
for all boy and that's about how much | |||
other improvement from them that I'd | |||
maybe take up engineering full-time and | |||
put the guitar away but let's take a | |||
listen to the first track from your new | |||
album secrets | |||
it's called Joshua | |||
I just heard a little bit of Joshua from | |||
Allan Holdsworth new album on intimate | |||
records called secrets let's talk a | |||
little bit about the actual guitars | |||
the stuff that you're playing on that | |||
and as a musician I'm kind of interested | |||
in how you go about getting the sound | |||
that you do and what kind of equipment | |||
and and just your mental approach in | |||
order to get the kind of the kind of | |||
sounds and what you do both on leads and | |||
during the rest of the time I think most | |||
people have a kind of like a sound in | |||
their head you know like that's what I | |||
like to think of is that as and for me | |||
like with the guitar or anything else | |||
it's just like a quest to try and get | |||
closer to that and for this particular | |||
track it was pretty straight forward in | |||
terms of equipment I used a steinberger | |||
guitar which I pretty well in fact I use | |||
it exclusively now it's like you can | |||
have a wood guitar anymore and I use the | |||
50 caliber boogie and that was it that's | |||
it it's pretty pretty simple setup for | |||
this particular track I usually record | |||
guitar like that that way sometimes I | |||
record the processing if it was | |||
important to the sounds like it has been | |||
on some of the last recordings | |||
but with the lead guitar thing or solo | |||
sound usually that I like to try and get | |||
as good as good as sad as I can and then | |||
move on the mental approach to going | |||
into a studio and recording as opposed | |||
to playing live how do you select | |||
yourself up to get that that one perfect | |||
solo or get as close to that it's | |||
because you can't feed off the energy of | |||
the audience that you can when you're | |||
when you're on a stage and that's true | |||
always really hard I mean the recording | |||
poses totally different problems for me | |||
that like I especially if it was done in | |||
inovative situation if you play a things | |||
like live like some of the tracks that | |||
we did and in the past between live and | |||
somehow they're always easier than when | |||
you start to go in and over them | |||
something because it's really difficult | |||
to make to make it sound like it was | |||
part of the the thing you know the whole | |||
event but I've really so I really listen | |||
to the if it's an overdub situation I | |||
really usually listen to them basic | |||
track a lot until I actually know | |||
exactly what everybody else is doing | |||
that way I find it easier to place all | |||
over the same line understand where all | |||
the look where all the little things are | |||
going to be and I try and make it sound | |||
as natural as possible | |||
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we just heard a little bit of spokes | |||
from Allan Holdsworth no intima album | |||
secrets this time you wrote about half | |||
of the compositions on the album before | |||
you were the primary composer that mean | |||
you're getting out of the composing | |||
business and more into the playing or | |||
this is really calling sort of two | |||
different sets of skills that are | |||
complementary well one for the first | |||
question I think I just liked a few some | |||
of the tunes that some of the guys had | |||
written and I always like to experiment | |||
and with those things in the particular | |||
pieces of music that I did like and felt | |||
that they would be they would sound a | |||
lot incorrect from the album just | |||
because of the personnel you know I | |||
figured out these come out with you know | |||
like a uniformity which it had | |||
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is basically because I I like the pieces | |||
that the other guys had written in and I | |||
wanted to give the guys an opportunity | |||
to write things so it it didn't style as | |||
a deliberate thing like saying well this | |||
time I'm not going to write everything | |||
it was just that Gary played me a tune | |||
and I really liked that which was | |||
sitting nice and then Steve had two | |||
tunes one of which made Mary and we'd | |||
done live in Joshua we actually didn't | |||
do that tune in life and I liked both of | |||
those tunes and then Chad would written | |||
the piece which I really like that piece | |||
too so it was just more or less that I | |||
liked them rather than saying well I | |||
couldn't be bothered to write any | |||
musical I felt that I didn't have enough | |||
music and when it comes to playing a | |||
little bit about playing with synthetics | |||
I mean how is it different than playing | |||
other guitars for what what how it was a | |||
hard to learn | |||
well it's completely different and | |||
that's one of the things I really like | |||
about it because I guess I mentioned it | |||
a few times in magazines and things I've | |||
done before that I never really I never | |||
really wanted to play guitar in the | |||
first place it just kind of happened and | |||
when I first started playing the syntax | |||
it was a real big emotional experience | |||
it felt better to me than the new | |||
account it felt like that I could | |||
develop a | |||
a relationship with the instrument has | |||
allowed me to express myself more than I | |||
could with the guitar just because I'd | |||
always wanted to play a wind instrument | |||
and using the breath controller on the | |||
syntax give me that kind of ability to | |||
do that so I really love the thing but | |||
as far as it being like a guitar it's | |||
very much unlike a guitar and I guess | |||
that's why a lot of guitar players don't | |||
like it so I guess now in a sense then | |||
you're you're more of a | |||
multi-instrumentalist and you were a few | |||
years ago well only in only in the only | |||
through Sonics program I'm not I'm | |||
definitely not a multi-instrumentalist | |||
it's just that obviously anything that | |||
you've learned on the guitar being is | |||
that it's a stringed instrument in the | |||
notes on particular frets or whatever | |||
and I can you know I still understand | |||
that on the syntax that part if it | |||
doesn't change which is great but the | |||
way the instrument feels is completely | |||
different let's go back and listen to a | |||
little bit more of the record | |||
this track is called City nights we're | |||
back in the Tustin studio of allan | |||
holdsworth with Helen Howe who's into | |||
muharram secrets is going to be coming | |||
out this August we just heard a little | |||
bit of City nights and you've been at | |||
this for quite some time now haven't you | |||
what sixth album yeah yes six and a | |||
little bit cio you've came first in | |||
nineteen I was recruited I owe you Alvin | |||
was recorded I think in 1980 and I think | |||
it came out in mistakes around 81 or | |||
somewhere around there and then we did | |||
the road games album for another label | |||
that we won't mention hideous record and | |||
then there did the metal fatigue | |||
Saavik roll sound and then see Druz what | |||
do you see | |||
other than of course the band and | |||
yourself as being the sort of common | |||
thread or what is it that ties us all | |||
together if you were to to take say a | |||
day of your life and listen to it all | |||
chronologically what would you say about | |||
the progression that you've made as a | |||
musician and as a composer I don't know | |||
other than the fact that I think I made | |||
some progress but other than that I | |||
wouldn't know exactly specifically what | |||
it was you know because I think each | |||
each individual is an individual and | |||
sometimes that they're not aware of what | |||
makes them self so I think all all that | |||
I try to do is just kind of follow my | |||
heart through the whole thing you know | |||
if I feel like I should do this that's | |||
what I do and if I feel like I should do | |||
that that's what I feel I guess I've | |||
always felt that way about music I just | |||
try to the best of my ability to keep | |||
moving you know keep this changing | |||
moving from the concept of the | |||
individual to the group this last track | |||
that we're about to hear 50 for Duncan | |||
Terrace | |||
doesn't feature you as prominently as | |||
many of the other tunes on on secrets | |||
yeah how come | |||
well it's died out unintentional because | |||
there was basically only one solo | |||
section in the piece and I wrote the | |||
piece for a friend of mine who died a | |||
few years ago he was a really great gala | |||
player his name was Pat's life and all | |||
the pieces that he used to compose were | |||
always very they were always very pretty | |||
or very melodic soft kind of them | |||
pieces so on I wrote this kind of in | |||
memory of him and he was like I said a | |||
piano player and after I started | |||
listening to the basic track when we did | |||
it the studio as I thought then Alan | |||
pasqua was tossing piano Flair and I | |||
just asked him if he'd like to and play | |||
on the track and he did and I just loved | |||
what he did so and he played the bulk of | |||
the soul and then I played this very | |||
short solo section at the end from Allan | |||
Holdsworth album secrets 54 Duncan | |||
terrorists | |||
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we're back in the Tustin Studio Vallon | |||
holdsworth where we've just heard 50 for | |||
Duncan Terrace from his new album | |||
secrets which is going to be out this | |||
August on intimate tapes and records and | |||
compact discs and gosh probably at some | |||
point we'll have a little computer disk | |||
that we can play play it as well through | |||
your Mac a little ways off we were | |||
talking during the break about guitars | |||
and he said something real interesting | |||
about steinberger so they they had | |||
something very special about them and | |||
I'd like to elaborate on that just a | |||
little bit all right I was a very first | |||
time I played when it was I just got an | |||
incredible feeling from it I just loved | |||
the thing and it made me feel like I | |||
felt when I very first picked up the | |||
very first guitar you know you there's a | |||
kind of like I had a resurgence of | |||
energy that I felt really oh I wanted to | |||
play the guitar again you know after I | |||
got this time barrier which is which was | |||
an interesting thing to happen and also | |||
I loved it because of the creative | |||
aspect of it too because most everybody | |||
else for the last 20 years it's just | |||
being a copy of some form of offender or | |||
a Gibson and I think that the | |||
Steinberger is the only true only truly | |||
significant development electric guitar | |||
for the last 20 years and I think that | |||
they're not only that but the thing just | |||
sounds great to me I mean I love it and | |||
it's the only food I play if you were | |||
going to I I realized this putting you | |||
on the spot a little bit but if you're | |||
going to give some advice to someone who | |||
is currently practicing and playing and | |||
perhaps aspiring someday to gain | |||
professional musician what is it the you | |||
talent | |||
well actually I was talking to Gary | |||
husband about this a few weeks ago and | |||
he made a very keen observation which | |||
was that everybody starts out when they | |||
first start playing with something very | |||
special of their own and what happens is | |||
they're losing and the key is to keep it | |||
and rather than being totally engrossed | |||
in what other people are doing to try | |||
and figure out what it is is it unique | |||
about themselves and nurture that you | |||
know I think it's really great to be | |||
inspired by people and obviously I'm | |||
still inspired by lots of musicians and | |||
what I hear but I try not to like din | |||
from his kind of infiltrate what I | |||
really want to do myself so I try to | |||
absorb the quality aspect of it but not | |||
actually what it is in terms of likely | |||
mimicry and I think that's the best | |||
possible advice I could give to anyone | |||
well thank you very much for your time | |||
on behalf of steinberger guitars and | |||
intima records I'm sayin tyranny we've | |||
been speaking with Allan Holdsworth | |||
his new album secrets will be out of the | |||
stores this August so in addition to | |||
those you're carrying right now if you'd | |||
like to do the entire thing we encourage | |||
you highly to find your way down there | |||
and get a copy for your own self | |||
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